Turkey sucks

Nov 23, 2016

"The wind is a very deceiving thing."

Yesterday, the New York Times shared its epic on-again off-again chat with Donald Trump in real-time with live tweets and excerpts. But while innovative in preesntation, ex-GigaOM writer Staci Kramer is spot-on when she says, "Quotes, excerpts, live tweets aren't a substitute for the full Donald Trump @nytimes transcript. Worth the time." (You read can that transcript here, which currently has 26,000 shares).

Zahra Hankir, a Facebook employee whose writings have appeared at Al Jazeera and elsewhere, tweets, "Analysis of @nytimes intvw with #donaldtrump: # of times Trump said: #ISIS: 3; #Syria: 6; #Putin: 4; You Know: 62"

Not included there is the fact that climate change was a centerpiece of the conversation. Though while Trump said he would have an "open mind" about the Paris Accord, many felt that Trump revealed he doesn't consider climate change as serious a threat as he should. "This is what happens when climate change isn't addressed once in three presidential debates," said the Guardian's Scott Bixby. One line on climate in particular caught the attention of The Li.st's Rachel Sklar: "'The wind is a very deceiving thing.' - Donald Trump."

It's those little things that, while not newsworthy, reveal a great deal about who Donald Trump is, or at least who he wants us to think he is—like this line plucked by CNN's Brian Stelter: "Trump at the end of NYT interview: 'I hope we can all get along.'"

That's a fine sentiment, but some like The Next Web's Nate Swanner don't sound convinced: "#Trump talks about Bannon being a racist like Paterno did with Sandusky: ‘I haven’t seen it, so it can’t be true.’"

Trump's new old whipping boy

Why was the New York Times able to provide a substantive presidential record full of legitimately newsworthy quotes, while television journalists while TV journalists faced a "fucking firing squad" when they met with just days earlier with president-elect Trump?

The answer is simple, says the Intercept's Liza Gross, linking to a new column by the Washington Post's Margaret Sullivan: "NYTimes editors refused to go off-the-record, Trump's preference, because he wanted again to control the story."

"Spot on commentary," says the Seattle Times' Lewis Kamb, quoting Sullivan: "'Journalists...shouldn’t allow themselves to be used as props in Trump’s never-ending theater.'" 

Elsewhere, former journalist Mike Spear now working with Genome Alberta, has this to say: "Major media has taken a thrashing over the last few months so how do most of them address it? With another misstep."

And finally, here's someone from the TV news industry Trump so vociferously attacked, ABC News' Jon Williams pulls one of Sullivan's quotes which suggests things are only going to get worse: ""Having whipping boy more important than ever now election over & no opponent to malign at every turn.'"

"This is seriously fucking crazy."

That's how The Outline's Joshua Topolsky responded when he read Gabriel Sherman's piece in New York Magazine titled "Activists Urge Hillary Clinton to Challenge Election Results."

A cybersecurity expert at Johns Hopkins and contributor to the Guardian Matthew Green weighs in: "I don't know what to think about this since nothing is on record. But Alex Halderman is a serious researcher,"

Hack Education's Audrey Watters agrees: "The headline reads 'activists' but these are cybersecurity experts asking for an audit of the election."

To ensure nobody misread Halderman's piece as "activism" as opposed to "science," Halderman spoke up for himself in a Medium piece which emphasizes, in the words of WXYZ's Chris Edwards, that "Concern about possible hacking should be non-partisan; excellent article."

And before anyone gets hysteric, the Sun Foundation's Alex Howard was sure to pull out the following quote from Haldeman: "The most likely explanation is…the polls were systematically wrong, rather than…the election was hacked."

"Turkey sucks" and other news you should know

According to the Wall Street Journal's Jay Solomon, Donald Trump Jr. held talks on Syria with Russia supporters weeks before the election. The Guardian's Paul Lewis says, "I went pheasant shooting with Don Jr in Iowa. Affable guy, but not sure I'd put him in charge of global relations."

The New York Times' Mike Isaac reports that Facebook has to plan to get back into China and it involves a sophisticated censorship tool. (14,000 shares). "Facebook developed software to help Chinese govt choose posts to suppress but can't tell whether "news" is fake," quips Adweek's Patrick Coffee.

Donald Trump wants to eliminate NASA's climate research, writes the Guardian's Oliver Milman. (27,000 shares). "These are the ideological nitwits Trump has empowered to control our planet's future," tweets the Boston Globe's Michael Cohen.

Back at the New York Times, Nick Corasaniti, Carl Hulse, and Alan Rappeport report that Donald Trump won't be relaxing much over the holiday weekend as he continues making appointments. "Odd split screen in Electoral College era," tweets the New York Times' Jonathan Weisman. "Hillary Clinton Widens Her Lead as Donald Trump Fills His Cabinet."

"What about the black working class?" That's what CNN's Tanzina Vega wants to know as the phrase "white working class voters" has popped up in many an election post-mortem. "'Working class' so often defaults to 'white working class,'" tweets MTV News' Jamil Smith.

"A small tax-exempt charity in Florida is supposed to be non-partisan, but paid Steve Bannon $376,000 over 4 years," tweets the New York Times' Edward Wong, linking to Robert O'Harrow Jr.'s report in the Washington Post,

"Billionaire campaign donor and public-education critic Betsy DeVos is Trump pick for Secretary of Education." That's how the Nation's John Nichols describes Trump's latest Cabinet pick, according to a report in the Detroit News by Chad Livengood and Jonathan Oosting. "Awful!" adds Nichols.

And then there's Trump's pick for UN Ambassador, Nikki Haley, as reported by the New York Times' Maggie HabermanPolitico's Glenn Thrush points out that Haley once referred to Trump by saying, "I will not stop until we fight a man that chooses not to disavow the K.K.K. That is not a part of our party.” 

At Poynter, Rebecca Ruiz states her case for "family-friendly newsrooms," "THIS THIS THIS," tweets her Poynter colleague, Melody Kramer.

And finally, Vox's Alex Abad-Santos and Caroline Framke are sure to stir up controversy with their new Thanksgiving post, "Meats, Ranked." Because to quote Abad-Santos, nothing says Thanksgiving like "Turkey sucks."

About the author

reporter covering music tech + politics. bylines @FastCompany @Guardian @thedailybeast @Stereogum I wrote @propublica's fracking song davemholmes@gmail.com

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