We (anyone in the sciences and medicine) all know that Dr. Makary is not an immunologist, he’s not an infectious disease specialist, and from what the specialists like myself, both PhD and MD can tell you is that he’s not listening to anyone who is. Makary is a surgeon, and in case you didn’t know what most surgeons know about immunology and viruses can fit in one short quick book chapter, maybe even just a couple of pages, if they’ve been keeping up with the field at all.