In a recent podcast, Cardinal Kurt Koch, the Vatican’s Prefect for Promoting Christian Unity, said of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX), “I’m not entirely sure one can already speak of schism.” The interview was conducted on July 2, 2026, and published that day on the website of the German edition of Communio — the same day that the official excommunication decree and explanatory note were published by the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF).