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a Judgment Lien against Mar a Lago. Just a few little steps and he can't sell it without paying her off. Just in case he moves to Scotland where he has a house. Also, I think she can collect the membership fees until he's paid up. Could be her side gig. Oh, Donald, you are such an idiot. He also redefamed Ruby, by mentioning the so called (by Trump) "ballot box stuffing" that he alleged occurred, which didn't. Oh Donald, why don't you just STFU!
keith olbermann podcast: "the hindenburg disaster of tv news 5.11.23"
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Well, at least the CNN thing didn't improve Trump's betting odds. He actually went down
Response to Quixote1818 (Original post) Thu May 11, 2023, 11:23 AM 2. Only a 1 pt drop is not encouraging. He'll always have the cult faithful, and putting him in front of a cheering audience makes the inattentive public think he's "legitimate". There are already more than enough soundbites that should have ended his political career. A few more obviously don't make much difference. Treating him like the abusive criminal conman that he and his family are . . . now that would make a difference.
Last nite's CNN "Town Hall" in my opinion was not a good thing for Trump.
Thu May 11, 2023, 11:06 AM Why? True that his base will vote for him no matter what. They are the irrational ones. But. It will help to peel away those on the edge. And likely will be big bites. There is only so much people will tolerate. The Biden campaign have plenty to use against Trump if he gets the nomination. Probably need to keep it short and simple.
For Those Who Said To Wait To Condemn CNN Until After The Town Hall....
The damage is now done. It is over. There is so much damage, but the one I want to address is to rape survivors, like me. For those of you who may recall, on my old account "demgurl" I wrote about my rape story and addressed it to George Will, who thought rape survivors come forward to get attention and become popular. What a load of excuse my French, bullshit! Last night, a lot more damage was done than is being talked about. I see Stephanie Miller talking about how Trump joked and mocked rape.
CNN towh-hall party for TFG: how were the ratings?
Response to Walleye (Reply #1) Thu May 11, 2023, 10:29 AM 2. But CNN was looking for viewers. Hopefully, this was the smackdown they deserved and they will not try this again. I know. I know. But one can hope. You'll all have to tell me about it, bc I won't watch their conservative nonsense any more. Reply to this post Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
The second worst thing CNN did.
Thu May 11, 2023, 10:09 AM The first of cource was doing this so called Town Hall at all. But what comes in a close second is the audience they selected. Did they scoop these idiots right out of a Trump rally? What a shameful excuse for a Town Hall. Don't expect Biden to get the same treatment. BTW No I did not watch and I refuse to tune in CNN ever. Hope this backfires on them. Bigly.
I had mixed feelings about the Trump town hall on CNN, but I think he did a fantastic job
Thu May 11, 2023, 09:55 AM demonstrating why he is the single most unfit, unqualified individual in the entire country to be President again. And he provided mountains of direct quotes that will be replayed over and over again, convincing even uninvolved, apathetic voters to register and vote for President Biden.
Biden releases a new ad using footage from Trump's disastrous town hall.
Wed May 10, 2023, 10:10 PM Tweet text: No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen @NoLieWithBTC ∑ Follow Wow. Biden has already released a new ad using footage from Trumpís disastrous town hall. 6:42 PM ∑ May 10, 2023 4 replies, 221 views Thread infoBookmark this threadTrash this thread Reply to this thread Back to top Alert abuse Replies to this discussion thread 4 replies Time Post Biden releases a new ad using footage from Trump's disastrous town hall.
I think I saw Trump's weakness tonight in a town hall format anyway.
Wed May 10, 2023, 09:51 PM RoeVWade (99 posts) I think I saw Trump's weakness tonight in a town hall format anyway. I thought Trump was doing his best to run over Kaitland Collins. But later on there was a short moment where he grew obviously irritated with her questions and lost his demeanor and she didn't break hers. That was the key, she broke his demeanor but kept completely calm and kept driving questions at him. That was the first moment where I felt she was really taking him down.
AOC is on MSNBC decrying the free campaign ad
Response to Just A Box Of Rain (Reply #2) Wed May 10, 2023, 09:43 PM 4. Just like 60 mins and MTG right?? 🙄 This free campaign advertisement wasn't about "exposing lies". Trump is being normalized & that's a huge freaking problem. What we see as lies, he and his cult applaud and CNN gave him a platform and normalized him tonight. Reply to this post Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
"You're a nasty person" -- Trump to Kaitlan Collins (the audience cheers)
Response to highplainsdem (Original post) Wed May 10, 2023, 09:29 PM 6. Might not play with suburban women, any woman, or any man who loves a woman. Trump is his own worst enemy. This is why is it wise to shine a light on him. Reply to this post Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
CNN says they don't have enough time to fact check all of Trump's lies. nt
Response to Ocelot II (Reply #1) Wed May 10, 2023, 09:31 PM 14. Best case scenario they're hoping to be Edgar R. Murrow and expose *rump people to counter messaging that they normally might not see. From what little bit of the town hall that I saw, Kaitlyn Collins did a decent job in challenging Dump on his lies, misstatements and bullshit. I believe there is a strong probability this will backfire on Hump. Reply to this post Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
This townhall is a disaster for all involved.
Response to Beautiful Disaster (Original post) Wed May 10, 2023, 09:18 PM 4. I don't think it's bad for trump. The "Surely people will see how bad he is" strategy doesn't work. This will make his path to the nomination far smoother and it will still be a VERY close general election. Reply to this post Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
Is it really so hard to support and respect an aged, ailing octogenarian wanting to finish her job
...even taking a moment to admire this woman for her determination? twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1656374278915346458 She's "dealing with vision and balance impairments, and will be using a wheelchair (shingles can cause face paralysis and other visible impairments)." Still, she made her first vote this afternoon since returning, confirming Glenna Wright-Gallo to serve as Asst. Education Sec. for Special Education & Rehabilitative Services.
Did CNN/Licht fuck up, hoping tRump will increase ratings/$$$$ and would save them?
Response to BigmanPigman (Original post) Wed May 10, 2023, 06:30 PM 3. No. Trump is newsworthy and news organizations cover newsworthy people and events. That's their job. I don't understand how DUers come to believe that Trump is likely to come out of this "looking good," as the man has no filter and hurts himself every time he opens his mouth. But memes and Tweets. Reply to this post Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
Will you be watching the TFG town hall With the carefully curated questioners?
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post) Wed May 10, 2023, 06:41 PM 5. Watching David Pakman live chat of Trump It seems somehow less offensive to watch it through Pakman's chat, instead of directly through CNN. I do want to see if there is ANY fact checking, push back or hard questions. I read somewhere online that Trump only agreed to Chris Licht's entreaties to come if the questions only come from pre-selected audience members and there was NO push back to anything he says.
Will Trump lie into the camera tonight on CNN? Will it matter?
Response to RussBLib (Reply #4) Wed May 10, 2023, 05:25 PM 16. Why would CNN have fact-checkers standing by? That implies they expect the former guy to lie. My prediction: The former guy will gish gallop through an unbroken string of lies, grievances, fabrications, and outright slander; the live audience will eat it up with a spoon; and the CNN host will show all the animation of a cigar store Indian.
Poll: Over and under how many lies does CNN allow to go unchallanged in Trump Town Hall?
Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post) Wed May 10, 2023, 04:30 PM 8. Trump will provide plenty of fodder for many (including CNN) to fact check and debunk over the coming days. Trump's big mouth is a gift that keeps on giving and it is a major factor in his undoing. Perfect timing for a Trump Town Hall. Reply to this post Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
Trump world booked CNN hoping for a big audience. What Do You Think?
Wed May 10, 2023, 03:48 PM https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/10/trump-world-cnn-carroll-verdict-00096099 Trump world booked CNN hoping for a big audience. Now, they’re in the thick of it. 'Trump’s camp anticipates that Tuesday’s verdict, which found him liable for sexually abusing Carroll, for which she was awarded $5 million in damages, will come up. But they also see the CNN town hall as an opportunity to reach a major national audience, according to a person familiar with their thinking.
Los Angeles Times on CNN's Trump Town Hall
Response to Cha (Reply #6) Wed May 10, 2023, 04:56 PM 8. I call it like I see it. "Group-think" is pervasive here. I think it will go badly for Trump. But I guess some minds are already decided this will be good for him, even before the program airs. Personally, I have zero confidence that he can take questions without causing himself harm. We will see. Reply to this post Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
With the TFG Town Hall is CNN becoming an ersatz Fox News?
Response to brooklynite (Reply #7) Wed May 10, 2023, 06:08 PM 9. I don't recall ever seeing a pro-life commercial on CNN before and I found it offensive I don't watch MSNBC, but it seems CNN is doing more and more right wing stuff lately. I always preferred CNN to MSNBC, but was thinking of switching (I like news on in the background so the house isn't quiet). But geez, if MSNBC is showing offensive commercials too, I just might have to find something else to put on.
Feinstein returing gives Dems 11-10 edge on Judiciary Comm--they meet tomorrow........
Response to Just A Box Of Rain (Reply #19) Wed May 10, 2023, 06:24 PM 36. I don't know where you're seeing attacks on her appearance. All I'm seeing in here are expressions of concern about how unwell she looks, which I happen to share. I would rather have seen her retire a little earlier than she planned than drag herself back to Washington when she's not well, but I guess she's made her choice. 🙁 Reply to this post Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
Let's give Kaitlin Collins the benefit of the doubt
Response to senseandsensibility (Original post) Wed May 10, 2023, 03:29 PM 2. Kick The conservative columnist Alyssa Farah Griffin defended CNN by saying that the host, Kaitlan Collins, is “tough” and won’t let Trump “get away with lying without being called out”. That’s exactly the problem. CNN is in the business of performing toughness and balance, not primarily producing journalism that serves to enlighten citizens and enhance democracy.
CNN will only have MAGAnuts/TFG supporters in this townhall
Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post) Wed May 10, 2023, 02:54 PM 7. Journalist Brian Krasenstein defends CNN as showing "both sides of the picture" (Huh?) But while criticism of CNN has grown as the town hall event approaches, some have spoken in defense of the channel. Investigative journalist Brian Krassenstein tweeted that, while respecting "peoples' right to boycott whatever and whoever the heck they want," Trump is still the GOP lead candidate for 2024.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein returns to D.C. after extended absence
Sen. Dianne Feinstein flew back to Washington on Tuesday, her spokesman said, after her extended absence due to the shingles virus threatened to derail Senate Democrats' agenda. The senator's absence caused mounting heartburn for the Democratic majority, which has few votes to spare to confirm President Biden's Cabinet and judicial nominees, as well as potential legislation to avert a default on the national debt. Senate Majority Leader Charles E.
Dianne Feinstein appreciation thread
Response to ificandream (Reply #3) Wed May 10, 2023, 01:39 PM 10. I saw this live on television. I was living across the bay in Berkeley as a college student at the time. The whole areas was already in a state of shock due to the recent mass-suicides/murders in Jonestown, where most People's Temple members were from the Bay Area. The murders of Milk and Moscone were a profound blow locally. Feinstein stepped up to offer courageous leadership. My admiration for her has never waivered.
Opinion: Why Joe Biden Needs a Primary Challenger
Response to CentralMass (Reply #6) Mon May 8, 2023, 08:10 AM 15. No. The opposite. Hillary: "I felt like I was wearing a straitjacket." "Throughout the primaries, every time I wanted to hit back against Bernie's attacks, I was told to restrain myself. Noting that his plans didn't add up, that they would inevitably mean raising taxes on middle class families, or that they were little more than a pipe dream -- all of this could be used to reinforce his argument that I wasn't a true progressive.
Barr: Trump is "a horror show"
Response to jayschool2013 (Original post) Fri May 5, 2023, 05:03 PM 5. People like Barr believe in "Trumpist policies" and they suffer from the egomania and arrogance Last edited Fri May 5, 2023, 07:24 PM - Edit history (1) of believing that they can manage the "chaos" for their own ends. Barr could never be a "good guy," because he is not a good person. His issue with Trumpian fascism is that Trump is too undisciplined to carry out the policies that Barr endorses. One evil mofo.
Trump defends his comments from the "Access Hollywood" tape in his taped deposition
Tweet text: Republican Accountability @AccountableGOP · Follow Trump defends his comments from the “Access Hollywood” tape in his taped deposition: Trump: “Historically, that’s true with stars…If you look over the last million years, I guess that’s been largely true. Not always, but largely true. Unfortunately or fortunately.” 11:19 AM · May 5, 2023
100% conviction rate? Thank you AG Garland!
Response to Silent3 (Reply #58) Fri May 5, 2023, 12:42 AM 60. A special effort, indeed an unprecedented, extraordinary effort has been made by DOJ to go after the top level J-6 suspects, and "shaking in fear" is a grossly overused trope. This is not to say that premature prosecutions do not risk extremely dire consequences to the principles you propose to protect by circumventing them.
I'm going there. Would CNN have given Hitler a town Hall after the Beer Hall Putsch?
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post) Thu May 4, 2023, 11:39 AM 7. We all have to go there We can't wait until he's amassed enough power to execute 6 million people to see the connection. Understand that once he has absolute power, there will be no difference. Reply to this post Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
Proud Boys found guilty of seditious conspiracy.
Response to Swede (Original post) Thu May 4, 2023, 11:55 AM 7. Lock them up, lock them up, lock them up! Just good to see that obvious crimes against our democracy didn't go unchecked. Reply to this post Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
Poll-Is CNN trying to OutFox Fox?
Just as any corporate media entity would. And yes, I include MSNBC in that group as well. There are buckets of studies that show that people actually search out reporting that suits their individual bias. And I admit to being guilty of that (despite having no access to cable television). We all do it. When I do an online search for news/information, I know for sure I'm NEVER going to click on any link having to do with Fox, NewsMax, Gateway Pundit, etc.
Feinstein absence dooms Biden rule that cuts pollution from heavy duty trucks - Ro Khanna
Response to Effete Snob (Reply #1) Thu Apr 27, 2023, 03:02 PM 5. Because it is one of the codified exceptions to the filibuster the law they used specifically sets up that it passes with 50 votes and that the majority leader can't keep it off the floor. In other words, the filibuster is even more pro GOP than even I thought previously. So, here are the exceptions that I know of.
Bye bye Joe Manchin
Response to AntivaxHunters (Original post) Thu Apr 27, 2023, 11:08 AM 8. Joe Manchin has been attacked relentlessly here on DU. I'm a Biden Democrat. 100%. Many of Manchin's votes have not been to my liking, especially those that have trimmed President Biden's broader economic and infrastructure agendas that I wholeheartedly support. But having a Democratic Senator from the now very deep red state of W Virginia has been a near-miracle. Our 2024 Senate prospects are grim.
Why is Pence even remotely entertaining the thought...
And high expectations FOX news will carry someone's water for them. One might note, in 2016 FOX was not for Trump until it became clear all the other candidates were just terrible in person. Pence is terrible in person. A complete Job Bush bore. He has zero chance. I really don't see any of the declared candidates as having half a chance. They're all bland. The door is really open for a MTG type nut to seize the moment of Trump falls apart.
Okay, who did this..!! 🤣🤣🤣
Response to sheshe2 (Original post) Wed Apr 26, 2023, 12:36 PM 16. It's Dangerous! First of all, it;s dangerous because it makes us laugh at politicians that pretend to be serious people and they really hate to be laughed at. Second, it's dangerous because it gives us a taste of what we can expect over the next year and a half from political advertising and mudslinging. Buckle up people, there will be a lot of laughs but also some truly cringe worthy moments to come.
I will crawl through shards of glass to vote for Biden
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 02:03 PM During an erupting volcano, while an EF5 tornado is coming towards me. Biden is the only thing standing between me and a pink triangle GOP concentration camp. Fuck polls and these boobs on the MSM. 2 replies, 44 views Thread infoBookmark this threadTrash this thread Reply to this thread Back to top Alert abuse Replies to this discussion thread 2 replies Time Post I will crawl through shards of glass to vote for Biden (Original post) 4 min ago OP 3 min ago #1 2 sec ago #2
Many did not want Biden in 2020
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 10:59 AM it was a crowded field and people were concerned about his age and health. They supported other candidates like Sanders and Warren. He was well behind before South Carolina. But he kept going and his campaigning got him the nomination. Then he got all the Democrats behind him and kicked Trump's ass. Becoming a good to great President. I see many of the same arguments now, but this is the same man who can win again.
Joe Biden Won on Normalcy. Will That Be Enough for Reelection?
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/04/biden-reelection-campaign-2024 Joe Biden Won on Normalcy. Will That Be Enough for Reelection? Voters show little enthusiasm for a Biden-Trump rematch. But as the president officially announces a reelection campaign, his promise of steady leadership could once again be his biggest selling point. By Eric Lutz April 24, 2023 The question for Joe Biden’s 2024 campaign, which he officially announced Tuesday: Can slow and steady win another presidential race?
Do you want Joe Biden "To Finish The Job" ?
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post) Tue Apr 25, 2023, 09:29 AM 3. Without question. Joe Biden is among the greatest of all time. Four more years! Reply to this post Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
How do you feel about Biden? "But his age" "I prefer a different candidate"
Response to samplegirl (Reply #1) Tue Apr 25, 2023, 10:18 AM 63. I like Biden. His age isn't ideal, but right now, I can't think of anyone in the party except perhaps Gavin Newsome who would be ready for primetime. I absolutely adore both Swalwell and Schiff, but I don't think either one could be the standard bearer of a national election, at least at this point.
Liberal Groups Ask for Dianne Feinstein to Step Down
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 04:06 PM Liberal Groups Ask for Dianne Feinstein to Step Down April 21, 2023 at 3:53 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 12 Comments https://politicalwire.com/2023/04/21/liberal-groups-ask-for-dianne-feinstein-to-step-down/ "SNIP....... “A coalition of more than 60 progressive grassroots groups claiming to represent more than 100,000 Californians sent a letter to Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) asking her to resign,” The Hill reports.
I used to respect Nome Chomsky's opinion but it seems he has missed the mark a lot lately
Response to Xolodno (Reply #3) Sat Apr 15, 2023, 11:06 PM 15. I appreciate your devils advocate stance and have carefully looked at his points and the opposing points. I simply think the Ukrainian response (which I link to above) makes much better points and shines a light on some real blind spots and possibly some disingenuous stances on Chomsky's part. Personally I believe we screwed up by not taking harder stances with Russia a long time ago and we are paying for it with this horrific invasion.
One cultist at a time
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 10:47 AM Interesting conversation I had this morning with the owner of my lawn care business I use. Used to be a devoted Bloated Ticker, now he agrees that Motherfucker should be tried, but then the conversation turned to President Biden and he rattled off the usual nut roll from the right about him. I listened and asked him to look beyond the messenger - because that's what a President really does - and look at the actions of the Presidency. That made him pause and think.
Let's not be fooled (Re: Diane Feinstein)
Response to FBaggins (Original post) Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:12 AM 9. It is unfortunate how as our brightest pols grow infirm, they lose the ability to pick their.... politically optimum retirement dates. Are they deluding themselves that they are indispensable? Are their supporters, aides and staff so entrenched that they chide their boss to remain even unto the detriment of our nation?
Who remembers these two guys?
Response to kentuck (Original post) Wed Apr 12, 2023, 11:12 AM 1. "Nonviolent resistance" is a better characterization. Nobody was “passive” in the usual sense of the word. And even nonviolent resistance was just one of many strands of action. There was not a homogeneous strain of passivity “of that time”. Mucho oversimplification. And a bit of condescension. Reply to this post Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
Chicago has been selected to host the 2024 Democratic Convention.
And a liberal progressive Mayor Johnson instead? It seems unlikely Johnson'll welcome visitors to the city with heavily armed police and National Guard troops prepared to shoot to kill or funnel nervous delegates into the barbed wire-enclosed convention center teeming with more of the heavily armed cops, etc. (Oh, to have been there!) Not to be too dismal, but today's "unpatriotic" elements just aren't turning out as tRump hoped.
Justin Jones and Joan Baez singing "We Shall Overcome" at the airport together
Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post) Sun Apr 9, 2023, 08:05 PM 3. Beautiful! When I was a very young child (like two or three years old), her first album was in our family's record collection. It was a famous family story that I figured out how to use the record player and that I'd play "Joan Baez" over and over. Her music has been a part of my life even longer than I can remember. I love her Reply to this post Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
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