Chantal Smith

AI is not a tool I pick up and put down. Itā€™s become completely ambient, embedded in every process I run at work, daily. A couple of weeks ago, in the first AI Vistas conversation, I sat down with Nita Farahany, Eric Topol, Nicholas Thompson and Rohit Krishnan to discuss exactly this: do we use our tools, or do they use us? That conversation pushed me to lay out how my own thinking process has evolved.

I recently used nearly 100 million tokens in a single day. That’s the equivalent of reading and writing roughly 75 million words in one day, mostly while doing other things. My friend Rohit Krishnan, who runs about 20 AI agents simultaneously, burned through 50 billion tokens last month. So I wanted to compare notes.

Listen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts A few days before OpenClaw exploded, I recorded a prescient conversation with Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft AI and co-founder of DeepMind. We talked about what happens when AI starts to seem conscious – even if it isn’t. Today, you get to hear our conversation. Mustafa has been sounding the alarm about what he calls “seemingly conscious AI” and the risk of collective AI psychosis for a long time.