Of course criticizing Soros isn't antisemitic, I say in our interview. But there is a difference between criticism and conspiracy. Looking back, would he say now that when Carlson began attacking Soros, Carlson was also trafficking in antisemitism? "I can't go to what was in Tucker's heart back when he was talking about George Soros," Shapiro replies. "All I can do is sort of characterize actual things that people say.