There are some conversations that challenge strategy. And then some conversations challenge the very operating system beneath how we think about leadership, business, culture, and the future of humanity. My conversation with Dr. David Gruder did both. David is an organizational psychologist, board-level advisor, 12-time award-winning author, and, in his own words, a “recovering psychologist and professional troublemaker.” That last phrase alone should make any thoughtful executive stop and smile.